Black History of Pine Grove School - Episode 91

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Yo, it's your boy Quincy Murdock and you're now tuned in to another episode of Not Just

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Music Podcast where we keep it real and honest, always.

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What's going on everybody?

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Not Just Music Podcast, Dwarne Burrino, Quincy Murdock in the building as always.

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How's everything sir?

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Everything good.

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We been hitting them, hitting them, hitting them, hitting them, hitting them with these

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last episodes man.

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I've been feeling it, you've been feeling it.

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I hope the people are feeling it most and definitely, you know, we just here to spread

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the word man and wake the people up.

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They're asleep and it's something that's woken.

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We encourage the woke ones to spread it also, the knowledge they have.

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How you doing man?

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Excellent.

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No complaints here.

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We want to be educated and give educated thoughts on black history.

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2024 is definitely a year that we definitely need to understand that a lot is definitely

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going on in the black community and the black community has failed the black community in

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many ways.

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Right.

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One, I'm still digging into the case of, as I say, education.

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If we didn't lack education so much, we probably could be in a bigger space with each other.

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Right.

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We don't look at equality the correct way and I'm speaking of equality amongst our own

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community.

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One way, just look at how upset and how angry people are.

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We're just the common people.

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Let's say the common people, look at how upset the common people are with one another.

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Right.

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And this is, this again, I've already spoken on togetherness.

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The reason why we lack the togetherness, I think it really starts with the children nowadays.

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If we can't teach the children the correct way by the time they become adults, they're

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in a different position, they're in a different space and mindset is all over the place.

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But the reason being is that way is because they learn to be a certain way for their,

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basically their entire lives.

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So one reason I'm saying this is because, like I said, I've been sticking to the Rosenwald

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schools.

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The Rosenwald schools to me were one of the biggest pinnacle points in the South at helping

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raise, educate and help the black child.

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I speak from a place of wanting black people to recognize the space that we were in then

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versus now, always to show what they had versus what we have.

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Again, we're one of the most blessed, we're in one of the most blessed situations considerably

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if we're going to weigh, compare this era to that era.

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Yes.

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Well, white people let their history be known though.

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They let-

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We don't let ours be known.

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They roll it out on the red carpet.

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Like teaching.

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Like you say.

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They roll it out on the red carpet in white America, bro.

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We got the same choice and option.

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They roll it out like it's-

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Don't get me wrong.

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And it's not wrong for them to do it.

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It's not wrong for them to do it.

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Like it's not wrong for us to roll ours out on the red carpet.

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You know?

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Nope.

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And we just choose to just say that we're not going to do that.

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Oh, we ain't got no opportunity.

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We want to stick on the bed.

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And if one person has to say it, it's always going to come out of the person's mouth that's

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going through it.

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So let me give you something.

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Let's start off by saying it is not just Black History Month anymore.

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Let's start there.

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Let's start by saying it's something to talk about that has to do with black history all

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of the time.

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It just gets, again, it gets mixed up and it can get easily swept under a rug and forgotten

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about very quickly.

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It's due to because it's not praised.

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Now let's make sense of it.

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Again, sticking to the Rosenwald schools, I found another one.

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This one is called Pine Grove School.

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Built in 1923 is the last remaining Rosenwald school in Richland County.

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Through funding secured from the South Carolina Community Competitive Grant Program, Richland

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County Conservation Commission and Lowes Charitable and Educational Preservation Fund through

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the Richland County Recreation Foundation and Commission has worked diligently to restore

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the school to its original configuration and successfully created a historic community

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gathering place.

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In 2009, the school received its national register designation and just recently received a historic

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preservation award from the Historic Columbia Foundation.

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Now let's pause for a second just so I can always explain this.

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If you don't know, the, let me make sure I say this the correct way, national register.

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Again, that's what I'm basically speaking about episode after episode.

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Every historic landmark, if it's done the correct way, there is a marker that sits in

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front of a building or a house or a something to the whatever the case of it is, is being

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displayed and it explains and breaks down the details to what the situation or what

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it makes it history or why it is history.

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Pay those attention, pay them attention.

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Even if it's the case of you're riding by a place and you see one, get out and look at

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it.

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It's got nothing to do with black history.

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You don't even know it.

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I see a lot of them too.

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You do.

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It's crazy how many- You think it was just a sign.

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Yeah, you would think that it's just a sign.

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Like it's just a sign, bro.

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Bro, I done passed it for years.

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These are gold, like you said.

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40 years old, bro, and I'm just not making sense of those.

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I'm ashamed of myself.

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I am.

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I am.

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I'm 40.

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Like the history, the history right in our face and we just ride right by it.

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And again, that's why a lot of this stuff is getting thrown under dirt now.

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Bulldoze to the ground.

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I'm glad we called it before it dies.

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You know what I'm saying?

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We got it in the craziest things.

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You feel like that's the one thing that I wish we could finally get a hold of.

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Just like what America does with their monuments and their figures and all of the stuff they

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feel should have this historical mark, they protect it with their life.

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They do.

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And it's not their fault.

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Like I said, it's our fault.

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We don't push them the same thing.

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Thank you.

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Because I thought that we don't do the same thing.

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Just like with schools.

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We got a lot to talk about and brag about as we been doing.

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If we don't say nothing, just like if we don't say nothing again.

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If we don't say nothing, how are we ever going to get to that point where it'll be looked

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at as gratified or that was gratification to look at that.

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If nobody says this, bro, all they're going to talk about is the negative and black blacks.

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That's all they're going to talk about.

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If nobody says this and it takes somebody or a few to have to stand for something and

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get behind somebody that's probably pushing the same narrative for people to be like,

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wow, okay, I see another light in it.

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It's a different perspective of that race, that person, that human, that culture.

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This is again, when will we be respected for being us?

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When we respect us.

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Hear that?

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When will we be respected for being us is when we respect us.

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Nobody is going to force us to go talk about the topics that we talk about.

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Again, y'all are quick to go look at, well, did they find anything else on Diddy?

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Let me go see if they found anything else on Diddy.

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Y'all are going to look for that, but it won't even take the time to even look and see who

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your great, great granddaddy was.

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I'm sorry.

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Or your great-grandma.

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God.

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Or your great-uncle.

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Or your great-great-great-uncle.

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Or anybody that follows your history, where'd you come from?

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You know what I'm saying?

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Where did you come from?

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A lot of the times, it's like I said, that was simple to find it.

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The Rosenwald schools, we can talk about that all for the next month and we still wouldn't

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be done.

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You know what?

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I don't even want to mention Diddy name.

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I think Diddy get more, every time we mention his name, he's getting more power.

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So I don't even want to say Diddy no more.

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Because honestly, that's all people would get from an episode if we pushed it, if we

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put that out because it's so toxic that we forget what's important and misconstrued what's

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important.

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You take your mind off of something good, that's the whole entire point.

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You're absolutely right.

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The more we roll into something to give something more power, we'll never get to the point of

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where we're actually effective.

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Just like the whole situation of schools.

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And this is Rosenwald school, I know this is the case of, was to do something for the

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black community and the nature of that.

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As we spoke on the last episode with the churches that help, right?

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Now let me ask you this question.

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With as many black communities as this in the world, in the US, and let's not even just

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fine tune it, with all the communities that are in America today, right?

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Even if five neighborhoods from each city came together, and I'm talking, came together

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in something in the situation of black, right?

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Come together to create a situation, let's say this neighborhood is going to have fun

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night every single Friday.

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Just nothing but black people.

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They pull up to have fun night, not on nothing crazy, something that's educational, that's

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built to help versus wreck us.

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Meaning, you pull up and it ain't going to be like a whole bunch of alcohol, it ain't

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going to be drugs, and that's what we need to get to.

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And I'm sorry to cut in, but I remember Tupac was doing something like that, where his creation

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of Thug Life, for example.

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And one of the things where we don't sell drugs, so we don't have drugs around when

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kids are getting off the school bus destinations, we don't have drugs, we don't sell dope on

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the streets or nothing where the kids are.

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It was all about, that structure he had was like a black structure, I think the old modern

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had.

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Tupac was ahead of his time.

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So the way that he was educated, and he didn't want gang banging to be showing the kids,

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it was all about kids.

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So like you say, the thing of it is, and a lot of black people say this, like, oh, we

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just got together to have a good time.

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The event that I had just came from.

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But it was kids out there, it was smoking going on, it was drinking going on, it was

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guns, people toting guns out there.

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So if you really, why can't we eliminate all that and still have fun?

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Thank you.

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Why can't we wait and smoke and drink when we get home to ourselves and stuff?

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Why we gotta do it in public?

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Because you know what?

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Let's confuse the enemy, let's confuse the races that's out there, let's confuse them

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and be like, they rolled through and they can't find no gun on us when we having fun.

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So they just have to keep riding.

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We ain't breaking no laws, sir.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Ain't no alcohol out here, ain't no weed out here, ain't no guns out here.

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We just listening to music, having fun.

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See that, but the white people know how to do that.

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They know how to eliminate the drugs and the alcohol when it's convenient to them and the

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police.

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So it ain't about a black or white thing, it's about a smart thing, being smart.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And being accountable for who you are.

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And knowing, being prepared.

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That's what I think Tupac was pushing also.

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Handle, be prepared for what you can control.

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If this cop roll up on me, am I dirty?

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Am I not dirty?

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Am I clean?

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That's the personal decision we all make, is what we do.

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So my mentality, and this is mine, and I'm going to be honest, with most of the, like

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you just said, most of the black community, right?

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We bring these kids around, right?

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And I was already talking about educating them.

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Think about that.

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You got a gun out, you just sitting there with a gun out.

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Or you sitting there, you smoking a blunt.

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Or smoking a cigarette.

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Or drinking some alcohol, got an open container or whatever, right?

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You out here just living your best crazy life, right?

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A kid get a hold of that.

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A kid just roll around, just say an alcohol bottle just sitting there opening.

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He just roll up and grabbing it and start drinking it.

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You can create a habit right, starting from right there.

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Bro, you ain't see where the kid took the edible brownie or some candy to school.

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He thought it was candy.

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And that it was due because the parents had it.

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So what you think is not harmful might turn out to be harmful and hurt the generations

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to come.

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Our actions influences the generations to come.

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Like, long story short, that's what we saying.

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Your actions destroy, and this is another thing, the people that's against it, when

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you get around these people, don't encourage it.

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Like, nah, put that smoke over there, that ain't good.

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But now you have older generations that just want to blend in with the crowd.

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And even though it's wrong, so that's where the problem is.

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So who are our kids looking up to?

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If we have everybody wanting to fit in, nobody wanting to correct the wrong behavior, like

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and who would the kids look?

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So they looking at it as like, okay, this is cool.

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Okay, I'm going to do it.

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That's why it comes to people like us to stand for something.

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You got to stand for something.

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There ain't too many black people standing for something now.

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You know, ain't nobody want to stand for something.

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Listen to what you just said.

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Now if the community, I don't know, as I just pointed out with the school, if the communities

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don't come together.

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I got the solution.

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Like, word.

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I got the solution, brother.

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What you really, what you mean?

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You got to-

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No, like how I think I just, like what I just broke down, like how, you know, you should

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eliminate the guns and no selling drugs on the corners because it's kids getting off

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the bus stops right here.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And you know, we going to clean up our neighborhoods and our environments and stuff like that.

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So yeah, I think I got the vision.

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And like I said, you know, like I'm talking to some people.

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This is the part that I want, that's the part I want heard because a lot of times we got

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to clean up our own.

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We make these community events and we put these community events together and we just

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out there doing all kinds of wrong things to the point where you can't even focus on

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the things that are doing, that's going on that could be considerably right.

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And it's not, and it's not, and it's not, and my thing is it's not wrong for you to

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do it on your own time.

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Personally, I don't smoke or drink, but I don't judge nobody.

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I never have because I don't like, I don't want them taking control of me to be honest.

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I, it's just, I'm against it.

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You know what I'm saying?

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But if you're going to do it, do it on your own time.

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And then also don't do it in front of your kids.

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Don't do it in front of these kids and, and don't sell drugs on the same corners and pollute.

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You're killing your own people in your area, in your territory.

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When you selling these drugs, like you have to think about it.

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You're selling these drugs off a profit of just some small money that you going to run

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out of.

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So it, so think about this.

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If you love your black people that much, why would you kill your black people and give

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them this poison?

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If you love your black people, if we love black, as we say, we do look at yourself and

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ask yourself, what are we doing to help our community, our people, and what are we doing

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to destroy our black people in our community?

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Oh boy.

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Once you start putting yourself, that accountability, you put them in people's hands.

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You put these pieces together and start taking accountability that change the likes of what

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you going to do.

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Your likes, the likes of what you would do would totally change if you look at what considerably

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is accountable.

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Just like you said with kids, if a, if a, if a mom is sitting up, let me just go, let's

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go deeper.

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If a parent period is sitting up here doing something that they're, I ain't even, let's

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not even say what they ain't supposed to be doing.

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Let's say period, but if you're just sitting up here doing something in front of your child,

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if you think that your child ain't going to pick up what you're doing, you have been totally

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mistaking yourself.

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I wouldn't even dare smoke in front of my mom if I was a smoker.

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I wouldn't, I would have the respect not to even do that.

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Some people don't feel, yeah, some people don't feel respect is, is, is should be given

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anymore and that's like what I say with these schools.

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And we need to clean that up, man.

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Yeah, these schools respected what they put into a child, what the youth generation was

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about.

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The morals was different.

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They, they wasn't worried about what they selves was.

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I mean, you know, smoking, I mean, we can't even afford to smoke.

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We can't even afford to drink, you know, and even if it was a case of they could afford

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to smoke and drink, look at the positions that they were putting their kids and their

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families in at that time with all of the stuff in this, all of the struggles they were going

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on.

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The benefits of it though, what, do the benefits outweigh the benefits, do the good benefits

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outweigh the bad benefits of smoking and drinking.

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You gonna spend a lot of money on it.

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Yep.

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It's gonna take all your money.

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History has shown most devs, people were intoxicated, you know, with marijuana.

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Most of them were high when they got in situations.

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Controlled substances.

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Are arrested, made that one bad decision, quick decision.

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They were, they were not in their right mind.

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They were intoxicated.

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They were, you know, with drugs or alcohol.

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So look at the history, you know, that what is it, is it causing more harm than positive?

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Ask yourself that.

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I think it is causing more harm.

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It causes more harm.

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Your body can only take with so much.

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And again, the more, the more you put on yourself, the more you putting on your body, the easier

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likely it is to that you're going to end up hurting or killing your own self.

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And you just temporarily erasing the pain, you know?

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You still gotta, you get to the root of the problem.

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And that's the thing with black people.

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We gotta get to the root of really what the problem is, you know what I'm saying?

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And stop covering up, like covering up the history, like how we want to reveal the good

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things.

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We gotta keep it real with our people on the bad things we need to correct too.

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Because then it will grow and make the black community even better.

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But you can't grow something if you don't point out the bad things of the, of the, or

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the bad things of those people or that individual or that race.

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You have to be honest, you know what I'm saying?

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Correction is only there to help.

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You feel me?

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And that's, that's why we are taking control of little by, I mean taking control of things

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little by little.

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They're gonna get it soon.

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The only way it's gonna get done is if somebody keeps giving it in the nature of giving it

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in a way of, okay.

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I think it's working.

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What can you give, what can you give to your community?

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Just as these schools where these people were trying to give something to have, what are

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you giving to your community that's going to help the next generation be great or better

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than this generation that we're in?

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Or you know, let's give these, let's give these babies a chance at life that would be

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something meaningful.

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Right.

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Versus just this thing of just understanding the bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

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We just gonna push bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, negative, negative, negative, negative.

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Our basic, basic, basic, basic, basic.

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Exactly.

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And not sky's the limit, sky's the limit, sky's the limit.

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You can be better than me, you can be better than me, you can do better than me, you can

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do better than me, you can achieve it, you can achieve it, you can do anything you put

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your mind into.

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I'm saying these words because that's what a lot of our black kids don't hear and our

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black generations don't hear.

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So we need to push those things, those words out more to our generation, man.

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That's how I feel.

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With all of the talk, with all of the straightforwardness, hopefully you all have a better understanding

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and mentality of what it is to educate.

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Yes, we need to be educated in our older generations, yes.

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But as well, we need to be on top of it for the next generation.

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The only way they gonna get there is if we planting things in them to help them get there,

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just like how they did with the Rosenwald schools.

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These were planted to help black children, to make them better, to give them a life better

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than what the parents had or anything to that nature where it was the generation before

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them.

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That past generation was trying to make it better for the next generation.

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Now that we've gotten to this now, in this term of generations, we've switched that total

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aspect, and it needs to go back to how it was in that light because these babies need

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it.

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They need to know what's right from wrong.

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Y'all loving to teach that wrong, but when you gonna teach that right?

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So for the case of we appreciate the black history that we've been absorbing, we appreciate

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it.

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Not even just y'all.

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We're educating ourselves as well.

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That's something that we've been tuned in to doing and we're gonna continue to do that.

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But again, we've come to another end of another great episode.

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We hope that, again, that you learned it.

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Nothing else.

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I'm definitely gonna keep bringing it because I know if I'm learning, somebody else gotta

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be learning.

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Facts.

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So again, we appreciate y'all.

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Y'all feel better coming off the tongue as well.

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For real.

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Talking this way.

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It's in me.

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It's in me.

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It ain't on me.

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It's in me.

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So again, I'm Duann Barrino.

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Quincey Murdock in the building as always and we will see you next time.

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What's going on?

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Duann Barrino from Not Just Music Podcast.

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Make sure you stay tuned for next week's episode.

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All right.

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Peace.